Moncton's Cop Shades will soon embark on a cross-country tour.
We’re a week behind on Fridays with … and I honestly wasn’t sure why until I finally heard back from Moncton’s Kyle McDonald (Cop Shades/The Woods) a few days ago. Unfortunately, McDonald’s home flooded last week and he’s been holed up in a hotel for a week while trying to sort through the mess Mother Nature threw at him.
Fortunately, McDonald is taking it all in stride. The ever-busy Moncton musician has a new project, Cop Shades (also featuring Remi Cormier and Colin Muir), and the band is hitting the ground running. It released a free EP (download here) earlier this year, produced and edited its own video (view below this post) has a full-length album out soon, and will soon be touring the whole damned country. Not bad for a band just getting things going, no?
McDonald fills us in:
1. Yours is a name I’ve heard around Moncton long before I met you in person. I think the first time I saw your name was on a HOPE album. Tell me a bit about how you got involved in the local scene and your experience over the years.
It really started back in ‘93 when I was blown away by the quality of the local bands. It surprised the hell out of me to think countless bands/artists are being paid big dollars to put out the mediocre stuff they do — meanwhile I’m finding some of the best stuff I’ve ever heard made by local dudes jamming in basements.
My first band in ‘94 was called THE GLADES, whose first gig was a Harrison Trimble High School Battle Of The Bands show which also featured the first gigs by local bands The Ditchpigs and Sour Grapes. I got a bootleg cassette copy of the show and it really sparked my interest in bootlegging these incredible local bands I’d seen around. Another factor in my interest was because a lot of the bands around town didn’t have a recording — I soon realized if I’d bring my own little gear setup and record the show in the best quality I could, that this was the next best thing to getting a copy of an album. From there it basically turned into a bit of an obsession in trying to achieve the best possible quality recording, ultimately resulting in me recording bands in my basement after having graduated from Recording Arts Canada back in ‘98.
2. In addition to the work you’ve done with a lot of bands, I believe you have quite an extensive collection of local music from over the years. Are you making a conscious effort to collect all the Moncton music you can?
I definitely buy as much local music as possible. The more support the better — whether it be buying it, spreading the word about it or going to see the live show. I’ve got a pretty ridiculous sized collection but I still have a long way to go. Plus I’m missing so much prior to ’93, but I’m always on the hunt. That said, I’ll take this opportunity to mention that if anyone out there has any local band recordings (releases or live shows) that they would be into sharing, please e-mail!
3. Is there a “most prized possession” amongst the collection?
The one that sticks out the most is a cassette by local band SYNTAX ERROR from 1986 called COW, SHOE, NOSE, BRAIN who are sort of like a young Acadian French version of the Dead Kennedys meets DEVO. Totally flew under the radar; these guys could have had a huge following.
4. Tell me about Cop Shades. How’d you guys form?
COP SHADES was formed by Colin Muir and I in the summer of 2009. Our other band, THE WOODS, which I sing and play bass in, were in a bit of a slow period where we were in the process of jamming with a new drummer and we were forced to kind of take our time with it as we only had one day a week to put in any progression time.
Colin and I had so much time for musical creativity that we had catalogued about three albums worth of songs for THE WOODS and it was getting to a point where we had to stop. When I started playing music back in ‘92, I was a drummer, so I thought it would be neat to jump behind the kit again, and have Colin pick up my bass which was a new thing for him as he was strictly a guitarist.
My cousin Jon 10 was initially going to sing with us but after one jam in, he realized he would be moving out west within a couple months and as such we knew we’d have to find another vocalist as the whole point of the band was to put our excess musical creativity to some active use during our downtime. Remi Cormier from the Peter Parkers and Colonial Quarrels found himself with a serious amount of musical time to spare and I always found he had a couple songs in the Peter Parkers where he would kind of really let loose vocally. I thought it would be neat to see if he would be into it and sort of take that more weird/aggressive approach to his vocal style I’d seen prior since I recorded both Peter Parkers’ full lengths. He was 100 per cent down and we decided it would be neat for him to run his vocal mic through his huge Peter Parkers guitar pedal board and try to put it all together to form something that felt different, original and relevant to us.
5. You released an EP not too long ago and have an album and extensive tour on the way … is it important to you guys to really hit the ground running?
Absolutely. The band was formed with a bit of a different mindset to that which we put into THE WOODS. With this band we wanted it to be very off the cuff, as underproduced and raw as possible. Too many bands around the Maritimes have a good thing going and have ambitions to get up and tour or give it a go as best they can, yet it never seems to amount to anything more than talk due to hundreds of different reasons.
We figure we’re not getting any younger and it’s not going to get any easier, why not just flat out make as much happen as we possibly can and just get out and do it? As such, we wrote and recorded our initial EP in 6-7 hours and decided to make it available online for free just to get out there and spread the word. A few months later we shot a video which cost us a whopping $0 with a handheld camera in our basement and I personally edited and released it. We’ll also have our debut full length released in time for our August tour.
Bands who focus too much on making money, taking weird business-like approaches to their music, or complaining that their album was ripped to mp3 and is being listened to by people who haven’t paid for it, in my personal opinion are on the wrong track. Music shouldn’t be looked at as a business until it’s somewhat forced upon you through doing what you love and people really dig what you do on a mass scale. The majority of independent bands in this day and age sell their albums to people who attend their shows and like what they hear, or just flat out want to support the band. You can’t really fight the way the mp3 has changed the music industry as a whole despite the fact there are also so many drawbacks as a result. The best music you’ll find in this world is created by those who don’t conform to any sort of code, trendiness or standard of “how things should be done if you want to succeed.”
6. Is the big tour coming up exciting? Scary?
The big tour is extremely exciting. Just prior to that, we’re doing a set of five Maritime dates in the second week of July with Pembroke, Ont. band FLYING FORTRESS, which features ZUKU songwriter/frontman Brandon Wars.
They are a two-piece sort of basement crust metal duo with a stoner/thrash edge that are absolutely blowing my mind. I really hope people come out to see them as they won’t be disappointed.
From there our first show of the tour is Aug. 4th in Quebec City, straight to Victoria, B.C. and back in town for Aug. 29th. We’re really excited to just get out and make it happen. Unless you’re a cover band, it’s completely unrealistic to expect to get big guarantees or to stay in hotels every night on your first cross-Canadian tour. Too many bands don’t end up getting around to doing it because they believe there is a “proper” or “right” way to go about it when the reality of it is to just get out there.
Unfortunately so many incredible bands don’t have the means to get out and tour because of responsibilities like demanding jobs, houses, wives and children. Fortunately for the band, we have none of the aforementioned ties, which makes it easy for the three of us to jump in an SUV and go. We’re playing with loads of different bands all across the country with completely different sounds that we specifically hand-picked to play with because they are our either our friends who we already love or bands that we’ve discovered that we personally like and would love to see live. We’re all equally excited for what I’m sure is going to be an experience of a life time (in one way or another!).
7. What song or album have you been listening to most lately?
This is a tough one as I’m constantly listening to so much “new-to-me” stuff. Three albums come to mind:
Husband & Knife – Ghost Highway (2010) which is an ambient/acoustic one-track EP by my very close Halifax friends KC and Evan. You can download it for free at http://www.divorcerecords.ca/ under the FREEWAVE section.
Acid King - III (2005) which is an album by the psychedelic stoner/doom rock band which is fronted by Lori S. who happens to be the ex-wife of Dale Crover of the Melvins. I cannot pull myself away from it.
The Doers – Gaiety (2007) which is an album by the Vancouver-based acoustic punk/pop/experimental trio who also happen to be very good friends of ours. Frontman Sean Maxey is actually doing the artwork for our debut full length which we’re very excited about.
8. What’s the most interesting thing you’ve learned recently?
Get flood insurance. My basement was recently flooded near waist-high in sewage, ruining nearly every piece of gear I owned. Luckily I had insurance though am still trying to pick up the pieces but so many don’t have the insurance or flood coverage. It’s worth the money if you own expensive stuff, believe me!
9. Finish the sentence below and please elaborate on what you mean:
The east coast music scene is … is so under recognized and appreciated — it’s unreal. People think they have a grasp on “East Coast Music,” meanwhile most are only familiar with about 10 per cent of it.
I wish there was more attention and appreciation on the efforts of those that are taking the DIY route and less of those who are being raved at because they do things like apply for grants and play the ECMAs. It would be nice if the ECMAs could accept and appreciate all different forms of east coast music equally, but unfortunately this isn’t the case.
It was cool they introduced the “Loud” category but lets be honest, it’s a pretty wide area. You could be anywhere from rock to noise to black metal to stoner to psych-rock, to punk and you’ll be lumped and judged in the same category.
Most Canadians believe East Coast Music thrives primarily with Celtic and traditional when the reality is simply if it doesn’t fit in that or another popular category, or conform to some sort of system of “how to be popular on the east coast” — it just flies under the radar and is never paid any attention for the most part.
There is this amazing website based out of Edmonton called Weird Canada which focuses on honest, DIY, original music that doesn’t get the press like everything else does. Also equally as important — the OBEY Convention (which was created and is run by Darcy Spidle of Divorce Records in Halifax) showcased a ridiculous amount of this kind of stuff, from the Maritimes and all over the world as well. In my opinion, it is hands down the best Canadian “festival-type” out there. Expect to hear about OBEY more and more as the years pass; every show part of it was sold out this year.
Check out Cop Shades’ video for North Korean Arts Degree below, and check out all the band’s tour dates online here.
COP SHADES – North Korean Arts Degree (Official Video) from Superbob Records on Vimeo.
